tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-462006525194985726.post1002738192749901864..comments2023-09-22T14:13:08.968-04:00Comments on Sandro Tosi: Things that make me angrySandro Tosihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17077191422205823991noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-462006525194985726.post-42339118449106415042009-11-11T01:26:19.693-05:002009-11-11T01:26:19.693-05:00My email address is more prestigious than yours!My email address is more prestigious than yours!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03996221668581809170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-462006525194985726.post-91365941624032966442009-11-10T10:35:46.521-05:002009-11-10T10:35:46.521-05:00This post made me wish I had a ubuntu.com email ad...This post made me wish I had a ubuntu.com email address to switch some of my packages too, just because the premise of this is so ludicrous.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06685308968710650797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-462006525194985726.post-71158068053362646862009-11-10T07:36:57.506-05:002009-11-10T07:36:57.506-05:00@Onkar (and others): it should be OBVIOUS that the...@Onkar (and others): it should be OBVIOUS that these are just MY opinions and absolutely NOT represent what the Debian project thinks. I'm NOT a representative, Debian speakman, nor a delegate, so I speak as JUST ONE developer.Sandro Tosihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17077191422205823991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-462006525194985726.post-54216099330234817342009-11-10T06:24:57.849-05:002009-11-10T06:24:57.849-05:00I am not a DD yet so the second point does not app...I am not a DD yet so the second point does not apply to me.<br /><br />I use Ubuntu as primary OS. I am a Ubuntu MOTU team member so I have a @ubuntu.com address. I regularly feed back packaging fixes to Debian in the packages and I always use @ubuntu.com address. The main reason I use @ubuntu.com is because it is an alias to my primary email address. So even if I change my primary email address people can still reach me. I see nothing wrong in that.<br />There are exactly 10 packages where I am listed as uploader currently and 2 of them I created/revived in Ubuntu first and ported in Debian later. Since I am no DD/NM/DM yet so I always need sponsorship and I have pretty good response in that regard from nice developers in Debian java team. And none of them ever complained about why I used @ubuntu.com address.<br /><br />Based on my experience I am already convinced that your sentiment/attitude is not representative of the Debian developers community. I hope that you are alone in this regard.ओंकार (Onkar)https://www.blogger.com/profile/10622132201989097057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-462006525194985726.post-77223246770285201962009-11-10T03:30:34.391-05:002009-11-10T03:30:34.391-05:00so, is it possible to contribute with an @msn add...so, is it possible to contribute with an @msn address?<br /><br />;-)Daniel Beckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17361462211141326090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-462006525194985726.post-21912328775084923102009-11-10T01:24:35.461-05:002009-11-10T01:24:35.461-05:00You're boring. And the only reason why I'm...You're boring. And the only reason why I'm replying on this post it's because I'm an asshole.David Morenohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09233201418668265443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-462006525194985726.post-88602594530053481892009-11-10T01:22:06.839-05:002009-11-10T01:22:06.839-05:00@DCK: you (all) can stretch my post as much as yo ...@DCK: you (all) can stretch my post as much as yo want, but in NO point I talked about 'contribution', else please point to the exact location of that.<br /><br />am I not supporting what I wrote? did anyone is actually trying to discuss what I wrote or everyone is coming here and insulting? Should I reply politely to them? NO WAY, hence my comments.<br /><br />You can comment what you want, and I can disagree with your comments, and I can make it clear: does this mean I shouldn't have posted? non sequitur<br /><br />I think you should think about all other insulting here as people that "do not have the attitude a free software developer should have.": did you do that? of course not, so please go away if you don't like it.Sandro Tosihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17077191422205823991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-462006525194985726.post-51568920830228533252009-11-09T19:40:19.027-05:002009-11-09T19:40:19.027-05:00@Sandro Tosi:
Maybe I should've, but I've ...@Sandro Tosi:<br />Maybe I should've, but I've got an @ubuntu.com address and clearly I'm not wanted to contribute?<br /><br />Just admit that you're wrong when you can't support your opinion with nothing more than petty loyalty issues, personal attacks and statements that your post should be ignored.<br /><br />When we comment on your blog post and you don't like it, maybe you shouldn't have posted in the first place?<br /><br />You do not have the attitude a free software developer should have.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04596809941172994915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-462006525194985726.post-66196329502036968912009-11-09T19:07:04.713-05:002009-11-09T19:07:04.713-05:00lame and segregative blog post. Doesn't constr...lame and segregative blog post. Doesn't construct anything.Diegohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18052138336869925472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-462006525194985726.post-7218748268875872422009-11-09T18:59:27.320-05:002009-11-09T18:59:27.320-05:00inane and pointless, yet somehow compelling enough...inane and pointless, yet somehow compelling enough that i got to the bottom. Seriously, why care about such a microscopically small detail?plAcidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07085849851615909695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-462006525194985726.post-1523586125787696982009-11-09T17:22:09.933-05:002009-11-09T17:22:09.933-05:00@Thijs: I hope you're feeling much better now....@Thijs: I hope you're feeling much better now...<br /><br />@<all>: Anyhow, if everyone complaining here about how discouraging to contribute to Debian my blog post is, had actually invested their time in DOING SOMETHING for Debian instead of blablabla, we now have a better distro... Of course, it's always easier talking that doing somethingSandro Tosihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17077191422205823991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-462006525194985726.post-39414507045025126972009-11-09T17:15:17.861-05:002009-11-09T17:15:17.861-05:00Howabout fixing a RC bug as an apology?
Great ide...<i>Howabout fixing a RC bug as an apology?</i><br /><br />Great idea.<br /><br />How about everyone posting on here fixes one too, just for the hell of it? :DUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09163741538424592436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-462006525194985726.post-63633433425651795912009-11-09T17:00:02.869-05:002009-11-09T17:00:02.869-05:00@all
My reaction was a bit over the top, i guess. ...@all<br />My reaction was a bit over the top, i guess. I am a happy kubuntu user and would love to start contributing. I do not begin to understand why the emotions keep running so high. In open source everybody wins, right? Forget about my previous comment...Snirphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03522173226688201303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-462006525194985726.post-15858341303106491972009-11-09T15:50:05.625-05:002009-11-09T15:50:05.625-05:00@sandrotosi get your feet back to the ground: *I* ...@sandrotosi get your feet back to the ground: *I* am "doing a big disservice to Debian"?<br /><br />yes. please try understand why instead of claiming that it is not true.<br /><br />You all doing a disservice to all the Debian people who want co-operate with ALL *people* in free software community, not just with the "elite of @debian.org". <br /><br />@sandrotosi the small percentage of ubuntu contributors getting back to Debian is so small, that they can easily ignore my blog post.<br /><br />This is wrong. Many key packages in debian are maintained by ubuntu people (often using their "debian.org" mail address so perhaps you don't even realize it). And is also also contradictory with your post to begin with. If there is so few ubuntu contributors, how could you have noticed them to begin with? Either there are more contributors than you admit or you are getting angry on completly trivial stuff.<br /><br />ps.<br />Howabout fixing a RC bug as an apology?Riku Voipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11009374403959477488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-462006525194985726.post-34316513707350409402009-11-09T15:46:10.485-05:002009-11-09T15:46:10.485-05:00@Snirp: I don't mind you shying away from Debi...@Snirp: I don't mind you shying away from Debian if you generalise one small little boy's misplaced blog post to project-wide policy or sentiments.Thijshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17794582611569247792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-462006525194985726.post-10764486161294413452009-11-09T14:47:28.592-05:002009-11-09T14:47:28.592-05:00I'll never contribute to Debian. It's poli...I'll never contribute to Debian. It's politics like this more than anything else that divide people vs unite them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-462006525194985726.post-28551355890402157612009-11-09T14:42:49.781-05:002009-11-09T14:42:49.781-05:00My two cents: posts like this do discourage people...My two cents: posts like this do discourage people from contributing to Debian. It highlights the fact that for you guys, politics is more important than contribution.<br /><br />You are of course free to say whatever you like on your blog, and I am free to think to myself 'Jeez, I hope I never have to work with that guy'.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14465700797482898212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-462006525194985726.post-68218607858889032802009-11-09T14:34:05.114-05:002009-11-09T14:34:05.114-05:00@Arkadiusz: thanks for teaching me. because you ar...@Arkadiusz: thanks for teaching me. because you are.... yeah, who are you exactly?Sandro Tosihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17077191422205823991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-462006525194985726.post-35904200529553310002009-11-09T14:28:41.636-05:002009-11-09T14:28:41.636-05:00If you don't want developers from other distro...If you don't want developers from other distros to work on yours, then you should not be in the open source community at all, because you clearly don't understand how it works.Fazerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05141846400174452145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-462006525194985726.post-30918895852517282062009-11-09T13:17:44.114-05:002009-11-09T13:17:44.114-05:00"As long as the Debian Desktop Project exists..."As long as the Debian Desktop Project exists, Ubuntu should not."<br /><br />How utterly arrogant, short-sighted and elitist. Did Microsoft purchase Debian now?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-462006525194985726.post-49640640688424094632009-11-09T13:06:03.620-05:002009-11-09T13:06:03.620-05:00As long as the Debian Desktop Project exists, Ubun...As long as the <a href="http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-desktop/" rel="nofollow">Debian Desktop Project</a> exists, Ubuntu should not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-462006525194985726.post-13783897998967172752009-11-09T12:50:56.292-05:002009-11-09T12:50:56.292-05:00It's "count to" and I've done th...It's "count to" and I've done that. So?Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10566325100945295105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-462006525194985726.post-67273318855936462972009-11-09T12:49:34.893-05:002009-11-09T12:49:34.893-05:00Sandro, your words (or writings) can have an impac...Sandro, your words (or writings) can have an impact.<br /><br />Your blog post neither will stop me from contributing to Debian, nor from using my ubuntu address for the changelog.Benjamin Drunghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10769166366893718871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-462006525194985726.post-19703452063411510322009-11-09T12:45:54.432-05:002009-11-09T12:45:54.432-05:00Serious people, GET A LIFE!!! There is the Sine fl...Serious people, GET A LIFE!!! There is the Sine flu, War, US Economy, TARP, a 10.2% Unemployment Rate, and SOOOO much more important things to be concerned and active about -- than some stupid political email crapola.<br /><br />What a waste of drive space, bandwidth and time this OP is. God, can I get my 1 minute back for my posted reply? Jezuz.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-462006525194985726.post-26114428810687716892009-11-09T12:41:30.929-05:002009-11-09T12:41:30.929-05:00@Tom: count till 10 before calling someone else...@Tom: count till 10 before calling someone else's thougths stupid...<br /><br />@a1fie: if you want to contribute you contribute, no matter what. Accusing me of having discouraged someone from contributing is quite false because if they have the desire to do so, they'd do. My words count nothing, if you haven't yet realized...Sandro Tosihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17077191422205823991noreply@blogger.com